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Thursday, February 23, 2006

Assemblyman Vas Pushing For Drivers Licenses For Illegal Aliens

Why is Assemblyman Joseph Vas (D-Perth Amboy) introducing legislation to create a special New Jersey driver’s license for illegal aliens?

"We need to stop being hypocrites and not accepting that they are an important part of the economy of our state," said Martin Perez, president of the Latino Leadership Alliance. "If we use this labor force, we have to assume some responsibility for making sure they get to their jobs legally and safely."
That brings us to the question of why people are employing illegal aliens in the first place? To begin with it’s against the law and secondly, the unemployment rate in the United States or in New Jersey, for that matter, is not zero.

Hiring illegal aliens depresses the wages of low-skilled American workers and of those just entering the workforce. It sets up the opportunity for employers to take advantage of undocumented workers and we’ve already heard too many horror stories to discount the problem.

Employers hiring illegal aliens should be prosecuted for breaking the law and elected official should not be working to make this illegal behavior easier or accepted.

Vas’ driver’s license for illegals is a companion to the bill State Senator Ronald Rice (D-Essex) is pushing to grant in-state college tuition for illegal aliens. Rewarding illegal behavior only encourages more of the same. When are our ‘leaders’ in Trenton going to recognize this fact? Maybe they do and they just don’t care.


At 10:11 PM, Blogger Mr. Apropos said...

Sadly, I think our NJ politicians will be dumb enough to do this. Sure, they should probably wait to see what happens in the case where California is being sued, but they won't. Remember, they'll spend however much of our money it takes to buy a voting block!

Personally, I'd rather just burn the money in big piles rather than use it to provide services for an illegal.

At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Paul Nelson said...

The next proposal will give them cars to drive to college, and EZ Pass tags for expedited access to free medical care at the nearest convenient hospital.

At 11:26 AM, Blogger Honest Abe said...

"We need to stop being hypocrites and not accepting that they are an important part of the economy of our state,"

The economic argument. Hmmmm... Now there's a new one.
That's the same argument used by pro-slavery Democrats during the 1850s and 1860s.
The exploitation of illegal aliens is the modern answer to slavery. All we need now is for someone to call it a "peculiar institution."

At 8:28 PM, Blogger joated said...

Just what part of "illegal" do they have trouble understanding? Big part of the economy or not (and they shouldn't be if the law was being followed) these illegal aliens should not be granted any privileges. They should be given a one way ticket home.

At 4:26 PM, Blogger taxmaxed said...

I had a hell of a time renewing my license because my name on my birth certificate and my old license weren't exactly the same; my name on my license, social security card, work ID, etc. are an obvious shortened form of my official birth certificate name. It took me two trips to the DMV, 10 pieces of ID and 6 hours of waiting and an hour of trying to explain that I was in fact the same person who's had a NJ Driver's License and have paid the State big time taxes for over 25 years. I guess if I were an illegal alien, I would have been rushed right through the first time and if I were related to bin laden, I'd probably have been moved to the front of the line.

At 9:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon guys, I think we are being a bit racist here. This governor is trying to help out NJ, and if giving out Licenses is the way to do it, then fine. I think they are trying to ask humane and give respect, remember that one is better then anyother. 11 other states are giving out licenses and its a matter of time before NJ gives it. Anyways, there are immigration proposals to legalize all those undocumented and it will soon go into effect. Have a little compasion for the aliens that clean and construct your home, and do all the hard work that we are too good to do.

At 9:54 PM, Blogger Enlighten said...

Perhaps you could explain how why our position is racist? Race has nothing to do with our position, just that old fashion notion that laws are to be respected and violators punished, not rewarded. As for the rest of your comments, did you read our post? FYI, The only people cleaning our homes are the inhabitants and we are all citizens of the United States.

At 10:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, am so am I, born and raised in NJ. But the difference between our openions are the facts that we overlook. I was born in Lyndhurst, mostly a white town when there is no hunger, no suffering because evrything goes well. But as I travelled to unfortunate countries like Mexico, Cuba, el Salvador and Brazil, their is a lot of suffering and poverty and that is the reason why people come to the US for a better future and excape the government, wars, and poverty. Giving out licenses to undocumented doesnt make them legal, it doesnt allow for them to hop onto a plane, it only allows for them to drive to work, and many wont even afford cars so not everyone will be driving. But more cars will be sold helping the economy and lowering car insurance for us. According to the Vas it helps Census keep track of population. Well, that is my openion eventhough many dont look at it like me. But I strongly believe that if Americans travel and see poverty that we never experienced, we would treat illegal aliens with more compasion because we would see that people are in need and are more unfortunate that us. I do respect everyone's position and I hope that everyone takes a little bit of time to consider my thoughts.

At 12:21 AM, Blogger Enlighten said...

We fully understand why people from all over the world would want to live in the United States. We also welcome those who come to work and live in the U.S. if they follow our immigration laws. Is that too much to ask for some reason? Why should people entering the country illegally have preference over people willing to follow the proper procedures and wait their turn to immigrate legally?

Giving illegal aliens drives licenses has nothing to do with compassion. Explain who benefits from this law and how they benefit? What’s the purpose other than to grant some sort of quasi legal status to those that have entered and stayed in the U.S. illegally?

Assemblyman Vas is looking to curry favor with certain special interests for political purposes. Vas is supposed to be upholding the law, not providing people with rewards for breaking the law. It blew up in his face – he had to cancel the rally he scheduled to unveil this bright idea. Do you really believe he had an altruistic motive?

At 1:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I wont mind if they accept licenses for undocumented people but if they involve me in an accident, the real accidents is going to be me smacking them :P (no offense).

At 9:57 AM, Blogger StupidLawFoe said...

First, it seems to me that to have a driver's license implies that one will be driving. HOW in the world will an illegal who's barely making minimum afford car insurance in this state??? (Oh wait, I pay for them already through my "uninsured motorists" fee.)

There are LAWS for a reason - without them there would be anarchy. You need labor? Have a guest worker program. Giving illegals licenses is an outrage. This whole thing has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with currying favor with voters.

I guess everyone has forgotten 9/11 already.

At 3:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok then. I see where you guys are coming from. Ok, lets not approve illegal lisences. If everything is to be done legally, then lets push to legalize the indocumented people. Its is currently being debated in Congress and soon one of the proposals will be approved and maybe then could everyone have lisenses legally. Therefore at least support a proposal to legalize these people,...right?... Why not?

At 4:01 PM, Blogger Enlighten said...

Because it would rewarding illegal behavior, it’s that simple.

At 6:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is my first time in this site, and after readed all these posts i have something to say:
First of all, could somebody tell me if Is there any person in the whole USA, beside the original owners of this big land (Cherokees, Apaches, etc) doesn't have inmigrant ancestry. When Cristopher Columbus came to AMERICA found any White or Black american?
The only real North Americans borned are the indians Yukons, Apaches, Cherokees, etc.
So if every single "Northamerica borned" have leaarned a little bit of history when they went to school must know it.You guys are not Americans but Northamericans , because If you don't know, America is a whole continent so, Central and Southamericans are also Americans.
Second, does anybody know how many aliens without a legal status in this country is driving a car? without paying fees to DMV, nor insurance companies, do you realize how much revenue can this means to the state that will issue Driving Permits to the inmigrants?
Do yo ever saw a chinese, hispanic, etc homeless, smoking wheat in a bar in spring break?
Do you see a chinese owning a small business?, do you see an hispanic in the street waiting for some "American" to pick him up and do any type of job? to make some money and live in a decent room and take care of their family, bringing even a small piece of bread to their mouths.
So think about it.

At 7:53 PM, Blogger Enlighten said...

There's a difference between a legal and an illegal immigrant, no?
Our ancestors came to the United States legally and we were born in this country. We ask nothing more than for people to come to our country legally.

We've thought about this issue quite a bit. We also know your comment has nothing to do with the topic being discussed in this post.

At 3:43 PM, Blogger MUHawk said...

As I have read through some of these comments I have come to the conclusion that some of those who posted in here seemed to have forgotten where they are from. Yes, we live in the "land of opportunity" where people from all over the world travel for the freedoms that we U.S. citizens enjoy. But if I recall it is U.S. citizens who have the right to these freedoms. If New Jersey were to allow illegal aliens to obtain a driver's license what does that say about our driver's license? Does it become void as a valid form of identification? I had to go through hell to insure that I had the proper forms for my 6 points. Now we are just going to allow these non-citizens to just fly through the DMV no questions asked? That's absurd and we all need to take a look back at 9-11.

At 8:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is true, i had to go 3 times to DMV to get my license. But i read in a newspaper that illegal aliens will have a watermark "UNDOCUMENTED" on their photo in their license and a line that says Not official ID. Meanwhile citizen licenses does say Official State ID. It doesnt matter, because its just a matter of time before Bush gives a blind amnesty to 12million aliens so that his popularity rises.

At 11:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys all need to understand the issue and legislation before talking about it

At 9:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is 100% sure that people will come because US is a big nations that can provide better future if we take advantage of that, no matter what. IN my opinion, it is also true that some people feel angry b/c they pay taxes and people are taking advantage of their taxes when they look for medi-care.. stamps , etc.. BUT, SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T UNDERSTAND THAT CONGRESISTS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE... They do not want to legalize people,, they don't want to give DRIVER LICENSE,,,etc.. In fact... AMERICANS are paying the Congresists error because, we want to have a DRIVER LICENSE (in order to support the economy), we want to LEGALIZE ourselves (in order to report taxes and help the economy).. If the Congresist don't try to resolve this issue, Americans will still be angry and congresist will continue create discrimination until this issue is resolve..

Xavier.... G.

At 5:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dont build a wall in Canada??? or in The Atlantic Ocean?????.

At 3:25 AM, Blogger Brian said...

I came across this article because I was just involved in an accident with an illegal alien...The car is theirs, registered to someone else and they drive. No license. Had this person not been on the road the accident would have never happened.

Our country is out of control...First learn the the Enlish Language as my Grandparents did. Take a drivers test in English...not in one of 190 languages. This is unfair. I went to court in Elizabeth the other day...the court was held in Spanish...Absolutely ridiculous. If they chose not to learn english go home...

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