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Thursday, August 10, 2006

Corzine’s Matt Stoller Calls NJ Dem Politicians Liars and Thugs, Supporters Suckers

Here’s Jon Corzine’s former “professional blogger” Matt Stoller on Democrat/progressive politics in New Jersey. (Stroller’s My DD buddy Scott Shields is now the paid blogger for Bob Menendez.)

But there's no way to say this nicely, New Jersey professional field operatives are basically thugs who have learned that it's easier to make money using Excel and Powerpoint. When I worked in New Jersey, I never saw it directly, but there were a lot of rumors of walking around money and payoffs to black church leaders on both the Republican [sic] and Democratic side.

There was a sense that reverence for the machine was more important than anything else, and this leads to treating voters with a sense of nasty condescension and open dishonesty. In New Jersey, voters know politicians are lying to them as they lie, and politicians know that voters know they are lying. It's corrosive to the staff, and corrosive throughout the machine and the state.

Field campaigns in New Jersey are built on cash and cynicism. Volunteers do not exist, and if they do, they are mostly considered suckers. Lots of field people, idealist young folks usually, told me that the central managers had no idea what was going on and were demanding number counts that were just sort of dumb. The field managers were brutish and charismatic bullies, and new consultants tend to appear constantly for every micro-constituency group. Does this work in New Jersey? It's hard to tell. It's always hard to tell, actually, and that's kind of how these people stay in business.

Now, my sense is that turnout in New Jersey didn't actually rely on these expert field operatives, even though these operatives got paid lots of money. Turnout actually relied on local machines getting their people out. It was locally done, and the New Jersey field experts were basically superfluous, or to the extent they were not, knew who and how to pay the right people off. How does this apply to Connecticut? Well, asshole field bullies may find that New Jerseyans are willing to put up with their nonsense, but that doesn't fly in Connecticut, where local towns and civility is more the norm.
The Blue Jersey crew takes offense. We warned you guys last year about Stoller, you just knew he’d be the kiss and tell type.


At 7:47 AM, Blogger Dino P. Crocetti said...

It's about time that somebody on the Democratic side was honest enough to acknowledge how getting out the vote in New Jersey really works.

It's ALWAYS been about the county machines getting out the vote. One of the biggest reasons New Jersey is drowning in debt is because machine politicians dole out jobs to their supporters and end up with massive payrolls. Come November, they get their payroll out to vote whereas the average voter has been so beaten down and abused by the system that they don't bother to go out and vote anymore.

In Hudson County it's ALL about machine politics. That's all anybody there knows. Numerous people over the years have come up against the Hudson County bosses and every last one of them was flat out embarassed because once the machine says it's time to vote for the people who got you your job or got you into Section 8 Housing so you can go on welfare and never have to work again, they march to the polls like clockwork.

A friend once told me that opposition to a County Machine in New Jersey is nothing more than a fly on a horse's ass. All the horse has to do is shake his tail and he knocks you off.

Truer words were never spoken.

At 9:01 AM, Anonymous Bob said...

As much as I dislike Stoller, I think he is correct. It is not just the Democrats.

I have attempted to contact the Cumberland County Republican Party any number of times about opportunities for helping out. Cash is all they want. Notice it is about the only county without a web site. The party will not even return telephone calls.

Money and only money. It's sad . . .

At 9:32 AM, Blogger Enlighten said...


Stoller's only reference to Republicans was about giving "walking around money and payoffs to black church leaders" in the 2005 Governor's race. Corzine's "gifts" to black church leaders has been well documented.

Now, as to your attempts to help the Republican party - we've heard similar stories from others. Given the lack of success in NJ, you'd think a different approach might be in order. In any event, NJ political process is completely broken in our opinion.

At 10:34 AM, Blogger Dino P. Crocetti said...

Defeating Bob Menendez in November will be an excellent start to fixing the process.

I hope the Kean campaign is poised to really take Menendez head on. The fact that it's August and there are no signs or Bumper Stickers available yet is shaking my confidence a little bit right now.

At 11:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know where you have been but Kean bumper stickers are all over. I suggest you stop into their Mountianside HQ to pick up some. Because they do exist and while you are there sign up to volunteer for his campaign. It is time to change New Jersey and victory this year is the start!

At 12:35 PM, Blogger Dino P. Crocetti said...

You'd better believe it! Sen. Kean is the best US Senate Candidate we've had in years and defeating a corrupt party boss like Bob Menendez is imperative.

I called over at mountainside and while they didn't have any signs or stickers at the moment the sweet young lady over the phone took down my address and told me that I should receive them soon.

They must really be moving like hotcakes. If so, that's an excellent sign!

At 2:48 PM, Blogger Ken Adams said...

The silence of the Kean campaign is deafening here in Burlington County, with the exception of requests for funds. I guess those of us south of Trenton just don't count, as usual.

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