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Friday, November 18, 2005

Iraq War Showdown In Congress

Sure hope the Republicans in the House have counted noses on this one. New Jersey has a couple of Republican representatives in the House that have gone wobbly on issues lately – ANWAR drilling for one.

From Drudge:
GOP to Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote...Troop resolution Tonight; hitting the House floor between 5:45 and 7:45...Ultimate showdown... IT'S A GO: IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN IN CONGRESS: VOTE ON TROOP PULLOUT

Update: More here from OSM.

Update II: This is interesting. The Democrat House members from New Jersey - Andrews, Holt, Menendez, Pallone, Pascrell, Payne and Rothman voted “Nay” on the question of holding a vote on withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. Isn’t that what the Democrats wanted - to pull the troops out of Iraq? Wouldn’t this have given them a chance to debate the issue and place their position on the record? They must have had better things to do – like coming home for their two week vacation.

The six Republican members from New Jersey voted “Yea” on holding the vote. If the vote comes to the floor – we’ll post the results.

Final Vote: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately:

In the end all New Jersey members of the House of Representatives, Democrats and Republicans voted against the immediate withdraw of American troops from Iraq. The sense of the House vote was Ayes - 3, Present - 6, Not Voting - 22 and Nays - 403.



4 Comments:

At 6:39 PM, Blogger Market-Mouro said...

What is it that wanting to drill in a NATIONAL WILDLIFE RESERVE (meaning we all have a say in what happens to it) without knowing just how much oil can possibly be extracted from there first makes you a Republican?

Right, this is a free market thing. You can always trust corporations to be free to drill holes wherever the hell they want so long as they turn a profit and create jobs, and be responsible doing it.

Hey where is that tape you promised a few weeks ago?

 
At 7:32 PM, Blogger Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Media,

Are you against drilling for oil in ANWAR or are you against drilling for oil period? You make a mighty good case for drilling - produce a resource in demand, reduce dependence on foreign oil, create jobs and make a profit for company share holders. Sounds like a winner all the way around. What’s the case against drilling?

As to the tape, where did you read that we possessed the tape or promised the Corzine tape would come out before the election? Go back and read the posts – we posted emails we received about the tape. http://enlightennj.blogspot.com/2005/10/corzines-next-scandal.html and
http://enlightennj.blogspot.com/2005/10/corzine-tape.html.

 
At 12:24 AM, Blogger Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Terry,

Sounds like we are in agreement for the most part. We would just add that we can and should do all of the above – work on the supply and demand side; pursue alternate and conventional energy sources simultaneously. The ANWAR oil fields certainly aren’t the answer to our dependence on foreign oil, but every barrel we can find at home helps.

 
At 1:36 PM, Blogger Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Terry P,
A similar resource to oil sands, oil shale is available in the United States. Colorado, Wyoming and Utah have huge oil shale deposits that contain an estimated 800 billion barrels of oil, three times the size of Saudi Arabia's reserves. It’s estimated that over 50% of the world’s oil shale resources are in this area, 80% of which are owned by the Federal government.

The cost of refining the shale and environmental concerns have kept this resource untapped. As the day approaches when oil shale processing becomes cost effective, will we again be held hostage to the same groups that have prevented drilling in ANWAR?

 

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